South Park wolves to be exterminated

By Jim Stanford on February 27, 2012

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This photo of wolves in Indian Trails by Tim McClure, shared on Facebook and published in the Jackson Hole Daily in January, first sounded the alarm among South Park residents and prompted a flood of calls to authorities.

After being inundated with complaints, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has decided to kill the small group of wolves roaming the South Park area.

Mike Jimenez, the service’s wolf recovery coordinator for Wyoming, plans to dart three or four wolves by helicopter in the coming days, once the predators move into a suitable area away from a residential neighborhood.

The decision follows standard practice, Jimenez said today in a phone interview. The agency has had to take similar action in other towns around the region, although this is the first time in Jackson, he said. With wolves inside the city limit, passing through the Indian Trails neighborhood and even using streets, conflicts are inevitable, he explained.

“At some point, there’s a line where we’ve gotten an unbelievable amount of calls,” Jimenez said.

“This is progressing,” he said. “Wolves become habituated.” The agency has a long track record of wolf behavior in these instances, he said, and it’s only a matter of time before they kill pets. While so far the predators merely have walked through yards, it’s not prudent to wait for an attack, he said.

“We know when wolves get in these kind of situations, those conflicts come up,” Jimenez said. The South Park wolves are “at ease going near houses and going near people in houses,” he said. “We put people’s safety as a paramount issue.”

A protest on the Town Square in 2010 brought out wolf lovers and haters.

Jimenez has been fielding calls from residents since around Christmas, he said. His phone lit up after an Indian Trails resident captured video of the wolves crossing through his backyard last week.

Jimenez, who has been involved in wolf management since 1986 and dealt with dozens of conflicts in Cody and elsewhere, said the wolves will be “euthanized humanely.” There is no more suitable habitat were they could be released, and the agency has not pursued that strategy in years, he said. At least one is wearing a radio collar, making tracking easier.

Killing the wolves is an ironic consequence of their successful recovery, he explained. Because packs have claimed the best habitat in and outside Grand Teton and Yellowstone national parks, young wolves inevitably will roam during the breeding season and settle in areas where there are no other wolves — including residential neighborhoods in Jackson Hole where game seeks refuge.

The current location in South Park is “just not an appropriate place,” Jimenez said. “It doesn’t help wolves to be recolonizing inappropriate places.”


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(Map shows location of Indian Trails at the base of High School Butte.)

Although wolves have co-existed for years around Kelly, the Indian Trails neighborhood has a higher “level of human density,” he said.

The decision to kill the wolves was made solely by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Jimenez said. It comes less than a month after the Wyoming Game and Fish Department trapped and relocated a mountain lion family that had taken up residence at the mouth of Cache Creek.

There are at least 38 packs and 230 wolves in Wyoming outside the national parks, Jimenez said, a healthy population well ahead of recovery goals. “Our bottom line is trying to do what’s best for wolves in the long run,” he said.

Update 3/13: Wolves have evaded capture.

(Protest photo by David Stubbs)

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62 Comments so far

  1. Jdub February 27, 2012 2:46 pm

    Might as well exterminate all the moose, too. Once and for all, eliminate all the conflicts with cars.

  2. elsie February 27, 2012 3:07 pm

    I hate to see them killed but it’s about the best option. Besides moving them to Central park in NY and Rock Creek Park in Washington DC that is. LOL! I have a friend who has horses right there behind Indian Trails and he stands to lose a LOT of money if the wolves start taking his horses.

  3. Margaret Creel February 27, 2012 3:26 pm

    This makes me sick. I can’t believe they can’t release these wolves elsewhere. At least then nature could take its course.

  4. joe February 27, 2012 4:01 pm

    if the wolves are on the streets can’t they be darted from tandem bicycles, and then ‘lobo’tomized, so they can play with tourists and lambs. and then we will all sing songs and have cola drinks

  5. James Peck February 27, 2012 4:16 pm

    One of the questions I asked him was how likely it was that they would leave in the spring following game out of the valley. He told me that he thought that was unlikely.

  6. Rob Weinstein February 27, 2012 4:20 pm

    Don’t f*ck with the wildlife…but I suppose if something becomes a threat, human nature is to remove that threat. I would be destroyed if a wolf hopped a fence and killed my dog.

    Having said that…aren’t there other precautionary methods that can be taken? Something along the lines of throwing socks filled with moth balls and sprinkling cayenne pepper under a porch to keep away skunks. Whatever.

    At the very least why are wolves not attempted to be relocated in the same manner that bears are? Why does the word ‘wolves’ have a negative connotation while problematic bears do not?

    I guess I’m more confused on the reasoning behind this ‘solution’ than anything else.

    If someone has the answers, please enlighten. I won’t judge or call you a dumb f*cking redneck until after I consider all sides. Promise.

  7. dave February 27, 2012 5:36 pm

    the reason we have these wolves here is because USFWS reintroduced them here in the mid 1990′s. their stewardship has allowed the population to reach 10 times their original objectives. wyoming , precisely the greater yellowstone region has nearly 350 wolves now. the population is not at risk with removal of these 3 wolves. if they are not removed then there will certainly be conflict. let mike jiminez and the usfws service do their job.

  8. Grumpy February 27, 2012 7:55 pm

    Seems to me that in the Hole the population that’s out of control is ours, and maybe the wolves should be left alone to cull some of the herd. Get them kiddos out there building snowmen at dawn and dusk.

  9. Andy B February 27, 2012 8:07 pm

    It seems that preemptive wildlife management is becoming the norm these days. ‘Tis a shame.

  10. alex February 27, 2012 8:30 pm

    This is why I am unsure if reintroduction was a good thing. It may be good for the ecosystem, but many individual wolves are going to suffer for it. I can also understand the opposition from a rancher’s point of view. It will be interesting to see how this whole thing plays out over the next decade.

  11. Stopnthink February 27, 2012 9:12 pm

    These wolves are not being removed to accomodate ranchers, they are being removed to protect people. Grumpy, I realize there are folks who enjoy watching the wolves tear an elk apart, but your suggestion of putting kids at risk is awful.
    The fact of the matter is they have raised too many wolves, which have destroyed most of their food supply. Hungry wolves are dangerous, tame hungry wolves even more so.

  12. tom February 27, 2012 9:20 pm

    but it takes the fish and game this long to figure out they are multiplying rapidly enough that they have now moved into jackson….yet they have been discussing a wy wolf hunt for how long now? but no official season has yet to be opened?? lets “talk” about a wolf hunt for a few more yrs so it gets out of control a little further. I saw 5 wolves on 3 different elk hunts last fall….all before actually seeing an elk. great control by our leaders of this wolf reintroduction. idiots!

  13. js February 27, 2012 9:26 pm

    I hope the wolves get away, cross the Snake and escape to the forest.

    Tom, Wyoming Game and Fish has not been managing wolves at all because they still are listed as an endangered species and subject to federal control.

  14. Yukon Cornelius February 27, 2012 9:41 pm

    Isn’t this part of living here? What makes Jackson so special? Almost all of the wildlife here could f*ck up your dog. Someone should saddle up a buffalo and drive the wolves to safety.

  15. Woolly February 27, 2012 9:52 pm

    The ironic thing is that these wolves would have been protected under state law (at least for a few more days, until the flex zone shifts north), which means the timing of this is very suspicious. USF&W will now argue that the plan to transfer control of wolves to the state of Wyoming is more protective of wolves than the current policy.

  16. TB February 27, 2012 10:26 pm

    I have spent many years watching old white and his clan on the refuge, they have never hurt anyone, very sad. Old white is such a survivor and a great wise old guy, I have a very heavy heart.

  17. Michael DeVine February 27, 2012 10:30 pm

    In a National Geographic Documentary called “A Man Among Wolves”, recordings of howling wolves were used on farms in Poland to keep wolves from interfering with livestock. The documentary points out that wolves are territorial and respectful of each other so within a few weeks of playing the recordings consistently the wolves moved on. The link below talks a bit about it.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc4ace_a-man-among-wolves-4-5_people

  18. mike February 27, 2012 11:20 pm

    Sad, but I think we will finally regain something of a balance after the hunt is restarted. I don’t like the new precedent of government agencies taking sudden, drastic measures with predators…it proves that the management strategies are not working.

  19. Robin February 27, 2012 11:52 pm

    Please call 307-733-7096 to protest that they should be relocated, not exterminated.

  20. sc February 28, 2012 7:29 am

    Let’s be honest now. The reason the wolves are set to be exterminated, instead of relocated like the bears and lions, is because they wondered into the “high rent district”. Wolves have been following the migratory gravy train south for over a decade. But we don’t allow dogs off the pathways or on the golf course at 3 Creeks now do we?

  21. Dixie Roden February 28, 2012 8:35 am

    I have lived on the entrance of a national forest with “high renters” and not one ever complained..we lived with coyotes, bears, wolves and we were always respectful of coexisting with our wildlife. We believed that we were guests in their home, not the other way around. IF you can’t handle living with the beauty of ALL nature, then please pack your bag and go back to whatever forsaken city you left from.

  22. D February 28, 2012 9:01 am

    I saw these three wolves Sunday morning on the way to the village. They were walking through the willows on the side of Highway 22, 40 yards past Spring Creek Ranch turn. They looked so so cute and cuddly please leave them there. This is what all of you wanted, and have been fighting for right? I wonder where all these calls are coming from.

    I will pay $1000 for a special tag to come harvest the white one.

    “There is no more suitable habitat were they could be released, and the agency has not pursued that strategy in years” Mike Jimenez USFWS
    So why are we still debating a hunting season again? Oh yeah that’s right they are endangered! ?

    I will pay $1000 for a special tag to come harvest the white one.

    I want wolves to thrive in this ecosystem, but you must include their natural controls/predators which is humans.

  23. Earle Layser February 28, 2012 9:03 am

    People move to Jackson Hole to be close to Nature and wildlife, but as soon as “fanged creatures” show up in their backyards or recreation areas the 19th century hypocrisay and attitudes towards predators
    takes over. If you think about it, the majority of opinion to remove the wolves is no different than the attitudes that were behind their extermination a century ago. The biologists are acting and reacting based on a 19th century paradigm, maybe it’s time to rethink those attitudes based on the 21st century and the decline of wildlife worldwide. If people knowingly move to Jackson to be close to wildlife then they should change their perceptions and lifestyles to accomodate the wildlife, including large predators, cases in point being the Cache Creek cougars, South Park wolves, moose along the village road, grizzly bears in the backcountry.

  24. g February 28, 2012 9:35 am

    This looks like a job for the Guy on a Buffalo

  25. Tater February 28, 2012 10:03 am

    People move here because they think they want to be close to nature, but when it gets to close for comfort the solution is to kill whatever threatens them. We need to get clue and coexist with nature not try to dominate it.

    I come from a long line of ranchers and need to say “all you wolf haters need to get a clue and get informed”. Forget the propiganda and truely research the true affect the wolf has on the wild herds. They were here long before us and will be here long after us and the deer and the elk will be too. Unless we ruin all the good habitat first.

  26. Tom February 28, 2012 10:24 am

    I agree with Earle completely. I moved to JH because I love the wildlife and fishing….And I really like to see the wolves…as long as we do not become overwhelmed by their increasing population. I would really like to elk and deer hunt without seeing and hearing the wolves on just about every outing. A controlled # of wolves would be fantastic!! I say move the wolves from SP to a remote area of Yellowstone where they were reintroduced and let them do their thing. If they come back to SP then take the next step.

  27. MARIO GANDOLFO February 28, 2012 10:50 am

    KILL KILL KILL KILL TIL THERE’S NO MORE LEFT TO KILL YOU F-ING SCUMBAGS…….

  28. cindy newbergher February 28, 2012 12:20 pm

    why do you have to kill a wolfpack that to date has made no kill on livestock or pets
    If you can relocate a cougar why not at least make some effort of finding suitable area where these wolves could be darted and left to roam as they are meant to do. First solution always seems that what you are afraid of you have to kill

  29. Mike February 28, 2012 12:27 pm

    Complaining there are too many wolves is a little foolish. We as humans have the nerve to claim there are too many wolves, but no one says anything about the 7 billion people who live on this planet. Anyone who kills a wolf is a coward.Hunters are the slaughterers of wildlife.

  30. mi mi February 28, 2012 12:31 pm

    PLEASE!!!! FOR GODS SAKE,LEAVE THE WOLVES ALONE!!!

  31. James Peck February 28, 2012 12:58 pm

    As the videographer/witness to part of this event, I have a comment. News accounts have portrayed my video as a “brazen approach” to area homes. This is false. These wolves are moving through the only remaining corridor between Middle School Butte and Indian Springs Open space. Both spaces are at least a square mile of undeveloped land. They choose to veer away from my house and post-hole through deep snow rather than run down my driveway. Their closest approach to our house is strictly a result of crossing a bridge over a creek. As soon as they clear the bridge, they veer away from our house.

  32. Cindy February 28, 2012 1:08 pm

    Has anyone determined if this is the pack from the Elk Refuge north meadow that we’ve been watching the past couple of weeks? Has G&F named the pack yet?
    PHASE OUT ELK SMORGASBORD’S SOON!!!!! Wyoming Elk Farming is so last Century…

  33. murph February 28, 2012 1:10 pm

    lets hope those wolves have moved along like reported and relocate Mike Jimenez

  34. Stopnthink February 28, 2012 2:59 pm

    Folks you have to realize the wolves like everything else can over populate an area, and so many wolves were trucked in and allowed to breed without control for so long that the area is saturated. Human deaths in Alaska and Canada in the last few years show us what happens when an area is overpopulated with hungry wolves.
    Common sense has to return to the wolf situation. It is sad they have to be killed, but thank FWS and money hungry lawsuit filers for allowing the situation to reach this point.

  35. Mike February 28, 2012 3:33 pm

    Wolves aren’t overpopulated, humans are. The reason why wolves don’t have enough space is because of our overpopulated human species.

  36. Common sense February 28, 2012 3:51 pm

    So many great questions here and a bucket load of rhetoric.

    A few facts

    The Wyo Game and fish have no authority to control , harvest, transport or take any wolf in Wyoming.

    The Scientists and biologist that supported there introduction said ten years ago they where in no danger now and needed delisted to be managed properly

    The far left green wackos have accused everyone supporting that science as being non environmentalists instead all are stupid Bubbas dying to kill one of these animals caught in the fight between real science and their biased views.

    It was not the rich complaining I scrape to live in this liberal crud hole and I was one of many that demanded they be taken in fact I asked for a shoot on site permit and got it.

    Wolves where never intended to be in the sub urban and city areas not only of Jackson Hole but anywhere in the west

    The only chance we have at delisting these animals will be derailed by the extremists thru the courts using your tax dollar to fund their lowly lawyers. And further demeaning the true environmentalists of this nation.

    Education is key- if you believe every wolf lover your selling yourselves short- get the facts- Because they hide behind a fine name like environmentalist most are poorly educated rebel rousers that have in no way given time nor money to any wildlife biology they only push their agendas and line lawyers pockets with YOUR tax dollars

    This is just the first of many in this area- as the population grows and food sources wain they will be back— in force look for more arguments, dead livestock and likely a human tragedy

    I am a human I am part of the eco system I deserve my property and my rights protected and the wolves deserve to be contained to the parks to live as nature intended

    The so called enviro crowd won- the wolves are here- thats not good enough now we must treat them as sacred cattle— there are good men willing to do the right thing and take this issue away from the courts and government and bring them to a REASONABLE number in reasonable areas no matter the law those folks tolerated the introduction some even supported it but all will rally to defend our states game and our properties and families out of necessity

    one last fact- there are far to many willing to start violence and cause trouble to the scientists- politicians and organizers that facilitated this — To you far left enviros- your hurting the cause- this is not what was intended when introduced and someday some old country boy will be called to set things right- back off and let Mr Jimez- Fish and Game -Science and the law work.

    For those of you that want them in your corner of the valley- vacate your property- tear down your buildings and leave the land in trust to wildlife as you are as much of the problem as anyone that resides here Your all hypocrites-

    See you back here same topic different year until there is nothing left to manage or argue over—

  37. Cindy February 28, 2012 3:55 pm

    Please check your facts about all the humans that have been killed by wolves. Check and check again, and then check some more! Money hungry lawsuit filers? Really. Take a look what happened in the first 14 days they came off the endangered species list in 2008, 13 wolves senselessly slaughtered in the Pinedale area. Come on. We are looking for balanced solutions and common sense. Not the old worn out:
    See Wolf Shoot Wolf.

  38. John W February 28, 2012 4:48 pm

    These wolves have overpopulated. If they aren’t culled, they’ll certainly come closer and closer to humans and someone will die. They may have been here first, but we’re here now and we got rid of them once for a reason. There’s room for wolves in nature and downtown Jackson Hole aint it.

  39. Common sense February 28, 2012 5:05 pm

    Cindi they where not needlessly slaughtered- there are to many of them and the science says they are effecting our game herds- besides that is ranch country – you know the folks that feed America and the world? Well at least those of us that loathe tofu- Is it fair to the wolf that over populated to the point of cruising the ranches in Pinedale and then the need to cull them> You are the problem–I would suggest you and your ilk have kept changing the rules suing over the law and raising hell yet you have done NOTHING for the rest of the game in the state. Did you know until a few short years ago- every single dime of management money came from those lowly sportsmen– Do you send your money to ELk foundation Tu Du or any other wildlife organizations– what have you personally done to help our wildlife besides spew false facts and cause indigestion—- Like I said the folks that have kept their mouths shut and guns silenced are really tiring of trying to please you and your crowd- there is no end, at some point we may be forced to cull them ourselves how will you feel then? the desired numbers where reached years ago– I seriously ask you- how many wolves do you think is enough? And when they hit they level what are you willing to do about it? Do you think you have the right to force them on a stockman’s land? Who gives you that right? The scientist have spoken now sit down and shut the heck up— There is no compromise with you folks is there? We have the wolves you wanted- we have 3 or 4 times the agreed on numbers and now you CIndi want to change the rules? Not a chance — How do you feel about moose? How do you think the moose feel about the number of wolves? IYour being hypocritical– You wanted science you got it- now stick wth it.

  40. Common sense February 28, 2012 5:12 pm

    CIndi – lets not forget the Louis and Clark Journals– The man and wife north of Jackson a few years ago- the female biologist in canada consumed by her pack- the death in Minnesota last year nor the many other documented accounts— Like I said educate yourself before you try educating me in the matter— Ye sit does not happen often but it does happen. from wiki-

    One of four photographs taken by Chris van Gelder of Todd Svarckopf fending off an aggressive wolf on November 4, 2005, four days before the Kenton Joel Carnegie wolf attack
    Though most Native American tribes revered wolves[citation needed], their oral history indicates they were attacked by wolves on occasion, long before the arrival of European settlers. Woodland Indians were usually most at risk, as they would often encounter wolves suddenly, and at close quarters. An old Nunamiut hunter, in an interview with author Barry Lopez, said that wolves used to attack his people, until the introduction of firearms, at which point the attacks ceased.[10]
    When settlers began colonizing the continent, they noticed that while local wolves were more numerous than in Europe, they were less aggressive.[10] In Canada, an Ontario newspaper offered a $100 reward for proof of an unprovoked wolf attack on a human. The money was left uncollected.[2] Though Theodore Roosevelt considered the large timber wolves of north-western Montana and Washington equal to Northern European wolves in size and strength, he noted they were nonetheless much shyer around man.[11]
    In modern times, as humans begin to encroach on wolf habitats more contacts are being recorded. Often the contact is because the person is walking their pet dog, and the wolf pack considers the dog a prey item, inciting an attack.[12][13][14][15] Retired wolf biologist Mark McNay compiled 80 events in Alaska and Canada where wolves closely approached or attacked people, finding 39 cases of aggression by apparently healthy wolves, and 29 cases of fearless behavior by non-aggressive wolves.[16]
    Unlike the grey wolf, the red wolf has not been known to attack people. However, packs of red wolves were reported to scavenge on battlefield corpses during the Mexican-American War.[17]
    [edit]

  41. Garry S. February 28, 2012 5:22 pm

    Interesting story. This puts the wolf management issue in good perspective. A few thoughts and comments but let me preface them with I used to live in Jackson but now live in another area where wolves are slowly colonizing. Moreover, I think on the whole the reintroduction of wolves will be good for our ecosystems. However, just like any natural resource they will need to be managed.

    For me, this issue is interesting because how is a pet or suburban homeowner any different than a rancher? I am not a rancher, but if I was I am pretty sure one of my livestock would be just as valuable as someone’s dog. And, my security is just as important as a homeowner in S. Park. How is it that wolves in Jackson should be euthanized but wolves in Pinedale threatening ranchers and livestock should not?

    I hope this issue helps people who live in more suburban and urban areas understand why SOME (not all) ranchers view wolves as a credible threat and they would prefer to kill them on sight.

    I guess my take on it would be that if landowners in the rest of Wyoming (and the rest of the western U.S.) have to deal with wolves by deterrent instead of lethal action, then shouldn’t the landowners of the S. Park area have to use the same methods?

    And, please don’t tell me that the wolves are a threat to you or your children. If they are, don’t live in the middle of what once was a thriving upland ungulate ecosystem! Please move to the safety and security of Idaho Falls, Casper, or Cheyenne. Couldn’t the same statement be said by numerous ranch families who live miles from any urban area and have to move about the ranch premises many times in the early morning or late evening darkness to conduct work and yet they are supposed to just cohabitate?

    Sorry this is a bit of a rant and I am really not emotionally connected to one side or the other, I just find it interesting that depending on where the wolf activity is determines the management action…

  42. mike m February 28, 2012 6:13 pm

    Educate yourselves about ECOLOGY!! If you think that moving the wolves to someplace in Yellowstone is a good idea, then you are not yet capable of an educated discussion. The existing populations in the Yellowstone region are easily nearing their carrying capacity, and I would bet that any newcomers would probably be killed by the existing packs…euthanization suddenly seems like a reasonable option.

    That being said–I hope that the South Park wolves are left alone. I live in that part of town, and walk my dog right where the wolves were spotted. I think the wolves are trying to avoid people.

    Many hunters are die hard environmentalists. They go to places that hardly anyone else visits, and most of them truly respect the animals that they hunt. I never imagined that I would be a hunter when I was a hippie-type entering college; it took education and growth. My love of nature and animals only grew in that process.

    We now have a viable wolf population. Let’s manage it properly.

  43. Jim Stanford February 28, 2012 6:17 pm

    Mike Jimenez responds to calls for wolves to be relocated, in latest post: http://www.jhunderground.com/2012/02/28/jimenez-no-to-relocating-wolves/

  44. rob February 28, 2012 7:44 pm

    common sense, you ring wing wackos are predator haters. You don’t want any animal killing the game you hunters want to kill. You hunters are famous for using rhetoric when it comes to wolves. Look at yourself before you speak.

  45. tom February 28, 2012 8:32 pm

    I disagree. Hunters and environmentalists are not the same. Environmentalists tend to care more about wildlife and the environment more than anyone else. Hunters tend to care more about killing wildlife more than anyone else.

  46. Rob Weinstein February 28, 2012 8:47 pm

    The sad thing is that even if an anti-wolfer comes up with a decent argument it’s nullified by the fact that: They don’t want wolves to kill the elk so that THEY may kill the elk.

  47. JFish February 28, 2012 9:57 pm

    pretty sad rhetoric here. Like a bunch of middle schoolers. Everyone is a hater if someone disagrees with their point of view. Grow up everyone and go do something productive.Lots of self righteous people around this place. Get out of Jackson, go visit a metropolitan or poor rural area somewhere and there are many things worth getting so passionate about. A few wolves are not that important in the big picture of our world today.

  48. mike m February 28, 2012 10:29 pm

    Tom-You should really google Teddy Roosevelt. He wasn’t the only one. If it weren’t for him, we wouldn’t have the “Yellowstone Ecosystem”, and there might not even be a safe place for wolves anywhere south of Canada.

  49. tom February 28, 2012 10:32 pm

    I hope the wolves attack the hippy tree huggers while they are on there cross country skis while they complain to their anti hunting friend about closing all the land in teton cty to motorized recreational vehicles. all of you anti hunting cross country skiers should move back to utah or california where you came from. or back to the big city then you won’t have to complain about the hunting sport and motorized activities that people with higher paying jobs can enjoy. getting a bit off track here but its the same s..t with you people all the time. if you keep letting the wolves multiply you might need a snowmobile to get away from the wolves….your cross country skis wont get you very far before they are chewing on your leg. this town is going to blow up with all of your hippy comments once it becomes legal to shoot wolves and I drive through town with it on my tailgate….funny thing is that you wont be smart enough to know I might have saved your dogs life or your own hippy a$$. deal with it…and take your skis to gtnp where the roads are closed in the winter. just watch your back for the wolves!!!

  50. Tony February 28, 2012 11:03 pm

    The greatest conservationists are not hunters. Hunters want to conserve wildlife, so they can KILL IT. They are not pro-wildlife. They are pro-KILLING wildlife.

  51. Chad February 29, 2012 12:26 am

    I gather tom might have an issue with cc skiers, but not hyperbole.

  52. LorriAnne February 29, 2012 12:51 am

    Fish and Wildlife aren’t smart enough to figure out they’re going by outdated knowledge. They’ll only figure it out after they’ve gone too far, and wolves end up endangered, or extinct. This news item, and a lot of the comments make me want to throw up. So do the people who can’t hack reality in the great outdoors. Someone else said they need to pack up their bags and move back to whatever forsaken city they came from. I agree. Cities should build up, not out. Ever hear of urban sprawl? Cities miles and miles wide, or built in the middle of wilderness aren’t good for animals, or for people. People who want to live in a wilderness area should be required to take a test to show they can handle it. Now I lose wolves, even though they aren’t ‘mine’ just because some wussy idjit with some money can’t hack what he’s gotten himself into, all on his own. Yup, makes me sick.

  53. La Nina February 29, 2012 10:53 am

    Obviously these comments are beginning to stray away from the issue. I just find it strange that if the wolves have been in this area for months and have had no conflict with humans and/or their pets why all of the sudden we need put them down. Waiting for a conflict where someone gets hurt is undisreable, but some compromise should be reached.

    Secondly, living in and around wolf habitat is a risk you agree to take when you choose to live or locate your ranch here. I do understand why the wolves make ranching more difficult/less profitable, but frankly it is risk of doing business. Just as owning a ski shop (keeping with the analogy here) in a low snow winter is risk of doing business. There are some factors of business that are out of your control and this is one of them. That being said, I believe the wolf population needs to be managed appropriately and with reason, but let’s not get all hysterical about the issue.

  54. Common sense February 29, 2012 2:08 pm

    Should not come here to ranch? Correct most cant a afford it,the others mostly have been here for generations and tolerated the wolves up to this point. But who the heck are are you to tell me what I can or should do on my own private property/ WHo or what gives you the right to impose your will on me and my peers? Do you truly believe you are better -more educated or love wildlife more than I? These wolves where not on just ranch land they are amongst people in the city limits!
    I bust my butt to keep the few cattle I have- no rich money bags here and I have been here way before the introduction— — We should be happy when wolves enter an area filled with homes- churches and schools- you bet and by golly the more wolves the better. They cannot live in urban settings – no one said all wolves attack folks’ but it has happened- what happens when some kid caught up in all our ‘adult’ arguments dies or is severely hurt? What about my livestock? Who is going to pay me for my cattle horses and dogs? What value do you have for my child? The folks on here screaming about the introduction are uneducated in the science- and stupid enough to believe we will tolerate the wolves any further than you have already rammed them down our throats- the wolves need culled to a manageable number period. If the Government does not solve the issue good men will- is that where you want to push this debate? BTW the black that had a face off with the deer at the NMWA is DEAD- as soon as he hit the refuge another pack killed him- we are full of wolves and the wolves even know that.

  55. Rusty Shaclkeford February 29, 2012 8:03 pm

    “Should not come here to ranch?” The ‘enviromental folks’ shouldn’t come here to watch wolves. Send em 20-30 or even 40 miles north that’s a decent spot.

  56. Rusty Shaclkeford February 29, 2012 8:04 pm

    “23.MARIO GANDOLFO February 28, 2012 10:50 am
    KILL KILL KILL KILL TIL THERE’S NO MORE LEFT TO KILL YOU F-ING SCUMBAGS…….”

    For the most part, yes you are correct. The wolves have already gotten to them.

  57. joeschmo March 1, 2012 3:55 pm

    people who are saying…”don’t mess with the wildlife” “leave them alone” “let nature run it’s course”….well if you really believe that, then you would believe that WOLVES DONT BELONG HERE! these wolves are NOT native wolves…they are TIMBER WOLVES who were implanted here from CANADA. that means that they are NOT NATIVE wolves and if you really believe that we shouldn’t mess with the wildlife, then we shouldn’t have implanted them here in the first place, right?? wolves, like elk and moose, are wildlife and they need to BE MANAGED. they have severely diminished our elk and moose populations in the valley and something needs to be done about this!!! they are overtaking togwotee, gros ventre, and soon will be indian trails. it’s all fun and games until someone’s child gets attacked…i spent september and october in the woods stalking elk with my bow and arrow, just like our ancestors did, trying to earn my meat. i encountered more WOLVES and BEARS than i did ELK for the entire two months. something is off kilter here and it needs to be taken care of!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  58. Nikki Nafziger March 2, 2012 6:32 pm

    What is wrong with all these people? Use the song method that the folks in Poland used. Use whatever humane method you can come up with to relocate the wolves. DON’T KILL THEM! That is not the job of wildlife services! The Lord had Adam name each of the animals to bond with them (like when you name your own child). We are supposed to be guardians/caretakers … not MURDERERS! Humans are not more important or better … JUST DEADLIER!

  59. jd March 4, 2012 12:00 pm

    here we go again. Hey Joeshmo.Some of us just don’t care if wolves are CANADIAN or AMERICAN. Many of us support the reintroduction and don’t care that it’s now more difficult for you to kill your dinner. Next time your hungry just drive out to the village, I’m sure you will find at least one dead moose run down cause somebody needed to get to town five min faster. Even the state of Wyoming, which hates wolves and all predetors as much as you say there are more elk than the range can support. Its amazing that all the wolf haters that cry about “our” wildlife being killed never make a peep about the slaughter on our roads. Do you support lowering the speed limit on county roads during the winter? That would save more wildlife than killing wolves. Hopefully the wolves will start eating the sheep and cows that shit and stomp in every stream i fish. Don’t hear any of you “sportsman” complaining about that.

  60. obama March 13, 2012 12:44 am

    iv never came across so many fags in my life. yay there are wolves…. really cool. now we have less than 1/4 of the elk we did 15 years ago. its predator control dushbag hippies.

  61. Mike V March 13, 2012 2:29 pm

    obama, you are funny! Did you know that prior to European explorers (i.e. the white man) coming to the greater Yellowstone area (and North America for that matter) there used to be A LOT more wolves than there are now and guess what … there were about twice as many elk as well. Prior to Jackson Hole being settled in the late 1800s there were an estimated 25-30 THOUSAND elk, and there were a lot of wolves here then too.
    ALSO, Wyoming G&F currently considers the Jackson Hole elk herd population ABOVE its capacity based on available habitat. This is not because of wolves, but because of HUMAN development.
    You and your ilk’s logic in this matter is uninformed, uneducated and just plain ignorant!

  62. js March 13, 2012 2:49 pm

    Yep. Just because people keep repeating something doesn’t mean it’s true: http://jhnewsandguide.com/article.php?art_id=4587
    “The report, 2009 Big Game Hunting Season Recommendation Summary, says 18 of the 25 counted herds were above population objectives and seven of them at the objectives. Managers consider a population at objective when its numbers are within 10 percent, plus or minus, of the state’s goals. None of the herds was below objectives, the report stated.”
    http://www.jhunderground.com/2007/02/27/shocker-elk-not-being-slaughtered-by-wolves/
    http://www.adventure-journal.com/2012/03/opinion-its-time-to-stop-feeding-those-jackson-elk/

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