not in Kansas anymore

By Jim Stanford on May 17, 2012

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Legitimate three-hour parking spots on the Square.

What if you traveled 1,000 miles to stage a gruesome abortion protest and no one could see it?

Props to the ranchers and moving truck owners for heading downtown on business this morning.

(Via Jackson Hole United)


Posted under Politics, Religion, Wyoming

38 Comments so far

  1. Rob Weinstein May 17, 2012 10:24 am


  2. Kate Walters May 17, 2012 12:28 pm

    Excellent, those of you who parked your trucks and trailers!

  3. murph May 17, 2012 1:04 pm


  4. MarkM May 17, 2012 3:07 pm

    Are you curious to know what the protesters are saying about Jackson Hole?

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results – Albert Einstein.

    After last year’s dismal failure to shut down the clinic, you’d think these protesters would change their tactics. They didn’t, so I am assuming that ending abortion is not their actual goal – getting attention for being controversial and confrontational is! OSA is its own worst enemy.

  5. jeffrey vest May 17, 2012 3:33 pm

    Brilliant idea!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. Tim May 17, 2012 3:47 pm


  7. common sense 2 May 17, 2012 4:42 pm

    I’ve alway been a proud citizen of Jackson, but more so with our town uniting against these holier than thou solicitors.

  8. D May 17, 2012 4:55 pm

    I think someone should start a 5013C with the only purpose to fund and make abortions easier to get. I just wish these people would base their ideas in reality and less in their wacky church. My 2

  9. murph May 17, 2012 6:51 pm

    i heard earlier today that the police chief had told those folks to move there trucks.
    maybe its time to play musical trucks and trailers.

  10. js May 17, 2012 9:56 pm
    Yep, another weak decision by the town, specifically the police chief. They have a right to free speech, and we have a right to park on the Square.

  11. JFish May 17, 2012 10:51 pm

    ha ha. This town is so hypocritical. Free speech, free speech,free speech…until it is a topic that you don’t like. Come on “equality and diversity” Wyoming.

  12. JFish May 17, 2012 10:58 pm

    And good grief.What if you traveled 1000 miles … one could see your signs blah blah blah. Thanks to media and counter protestors, that is all I have heard about and seen this week. You guys serve their purpose for them by giving them all this attention.If I saw trailers blocking something intentionally and didn’t know what was behind them-I would probably immediately go see what was behind them.what do you do when you see police and a car wreck?You rubber neck to get a better look. You guys are playing into their hand perfectly-you think this is their first protest and don’t know how to work the system.Come on.

  13. Gnorm May 18, 2012 8:17 am

    Agreed, JFish.

  14. dp May 18, 2012 8:47 am

    I agree that any attention is good attention for them, but I also disagree with Fish because their main goal is confrontation and “shock and awe” Having their signs legally obstructed and ‘consciously’ ignoring them may be new to them. They want confrontation, press and lawsuits. Once again unimpressed with our local (how many per capita?) law enforcement. Squashing our right to quiet enjoyment of our town and hurting local businesses by defending the questionable rights of a lunatic extremest group from Kansas. Disclaimer, THE FOLLOWING IS TONGUE IN CHEEK! Would you imagine my graphic signs would be permitted when I stage my anti minority-gay-sex rally? Far less obscene than what OSA is allowed…..but I can express my 1st amendment rights, yes or no? (we’ll black box the actual “pornographic” parts).

  15. dp May 18, 2012 9:17 am

    Ok, my bad, wrote the previous comment wrong, rally wouldn’t work, we could be pro instead of anti, then it wouldn’t be hate speech. Or… How about an anti-bestiality rally. The posters are going to be awesome! (and it’s probably still legal in OSA-ville Kansas.)

  16. Shannon May 18, 2012 9:55 am

    Free speech is and should be protected – and there are exceptions to that constitutional protection. There is nothing hypocritical about many people in this community believing that this should be one of those exceptions due to the graphic, violent and misleading nature of the billboards. Especially because the protestors have decided to target children as their primary audience. Maybe there is another case for the supreme court to determine?

  17. JFish May 18, 2012 10:19 am

    keep in mind everyone that the posters only depict LEGAL and common practices in your town. When I drove through town the other day I saw no confrontations. I was shocked about all the attention being given to this after I saw it for the first time. And the citations that were issued- Were they protestors or anti protestors?Why should there be an exception to letting someone protest something that is legal?What is the basis of making an exception here? The posters were not that over the top(legal act)and easy to not look at if you so choose.

  18. JFish May 18, 2012 10:41 am

    Also, dp I’m sure you criticized the occupy protestors didn’t you- because they squashed the right of citizens for the quite enjoyment of their city parks and municipal grounds? By the way, I was not in favor of the protestors on the square until I drove through Wednesday. Free Americans speaking their mind and passion.More power to them and people such as the occupy protestors.That’s what makes America America.

  19. Tom May 18, 2012 10:48 am

    So i have 2 young children, age 4 and 11 that have to see these idiots and their graphic signs. Any idea what that does to their minds? Now I can’t take them to the square on saturday because I have to avoid the huge pictures that they don’t understand. Thanks for ruining a great event that has been going on for years and not allowing me to take my children!!! I understand they are targeting teenagers….but what about the younger kids that this affects? And I have heard that plenty of boy scouts will not be attending their event this weekend either. Inconsiderate!!!!!!!

  20. Tom May 18, 2012 10:51 am

    I am fine with signs that contain words….but I feel the pictures should not be allowed. Not cool for younger children to have to see.

  21. js May 18, 2012 10:54 am

    Apparently the town is a little prickly about criticism over the no-parking decision. It just sent out a whole press release devoted to the topic. Here’s an excerpt:

    On Thursday, the Jackson Police Department addressed an issue related to oversize vehicle parking on the west side of the Town Square in violation of posted signage and current Town code. Pursuant to Municipal Code, oversize vehicle parking is prohibited around the entire perimeter of the Town Square. The owners of the vehicles parked in violation were voluntarily compliant with the request from Chief of Police Todd Smith to remove the vehicles. Town officials then signed the area temporary no parking, rather than allowing the current three hour limit of regular sized vehicles.

    “We believed it would be a continual issue and in the interest of public safety, we chose to make it temporary no parking throughout the protest period,” explained Bob McLaurin. “This is a course of action we would take for any group.”

    “Public safety is our biggest concern throughout this event,” explained Chief Smith. “The Police Department has a very difficult task of keeping the peace, and if there are any actions that we can take that set our officers up for success, we owe it to them and this community to do so.”

  22. shannon May 18, 2012 11:14 am

    jfish – by all the posting you are doing you seem to be giving it as much attention as anyone. For good reason I imagine, in that this elicits emotion from many angles. Free speech, rights to protect children etc. I believe there could be a case made for an exception to free speech due to the graphic nature of the photos. I believe the citizens of this town have the right to explore that exception as much as the protestors have a right to demonstrate. Plus – the photos are EXAGGERATED and symbolic to make the point to disgust. The group says as much on their website. Regardless, in my mind, they are offensive and potentially damaging to children, much like pornography. Again, it would be up to the courts to make that determination, and as yet they have not done so.

  23. JFish May 18, 2012 12:46 pm

    I don’t really mind if it gets the attention.Like I said.That is what makes America… America. I think someone can easily visit the square Saturday and avoid the one corner across from the bootlegger.I think the auction is usually by JH outfitters on that side.If there were 2 dozen homeless there begging for money on that corner I bet people would avoid it. If I come out I will not take my kids to the posters-easy enough to avoid. And I think the WY supreme court has already been involved in this case-and they are still here.

  24. tom May 18, 2012 4:34 pm

    easy to say there jfish… you know right where these idiots are at all times with there offensive pictures? get your life together!!! you seem to be possibly as bright as the individuals with the photos who think they dont affect young children.

  25. JFish May 18, 2012 6:39 pm personal.chill out-you sound like you will be one with a citation. You need to follow Mike’s(teton barber) advice and stay calm.Civility,compassion,love-obviously you haven’t joined that group.Have you even been up there? I have.The posters are stationary.They aren’t toting around an 8 foot wall!And speaking of affecting young children-hahaha. maybe you should look at the posters and see who is affecting young children(mild way of saying murdering)!Get my life together-what are you talking about?You almost make me want to take my kids up there and join the protestors.You talk about offensive pics and you spew venom at someone you don’t know. Don’t worry though-I don’t get as easily offended as you do. Take care and I love you Tom.

  26. Cherilynn May 18, 2012 10:15 pm

    Civility and common sense are more powerful that absolute and utter stupidity. I oppose the death penalty, but I am not going to show horrifying pictures to try and enrage people so I can file a lawsuit and collect money for my special interest group…all the while targeting small childfren that are mentally, emotionally, and physcially damaged by graphic images.

  27. Woolly May 18, 2012 10:43 pm

    Everything about these protestors is crazy. The entire premise for them being here is that Dr. Blue is the only doctor in Wyoming that performs abortions, which isn’t even true. To prove their incorrect hypothesis they use misleading, doctored photographs and religion taken out of context. Its total illogical madness and unfortunately it brings out the worst in those of us that live in reality. I’ve been trying to ignore them and to consider it to simply be the kick off to the annual tourist show. Keep calm and carry on Jackson Hole.

  28. Tim May 18, 2012 10:46 pm

    Actually, JFish, they *are* toting around an 8 foot tall sign. They have a panel truck driving slow laps around the Square.

  29. JFish May 18, 2012 11:23 pm

    I think we have some conspiracy theorists around here.Fortunately our constitution does allow stupidity. All can’t be as gifted as others in the intellectual world.Maybe someday.By the way,what other doctors perform abortions in Wyoming? And what pics are doctored-have you seen them or here say?If you name the MD’s maybe they will go there.

  30. tom May 18, 2012 11:32 pm

    guess I am just expressing my freedom of speach to you jfish….which is obviously a one sided deal in your case. did you ever think that these protestors are showing graphic pics to young children they dont even know?corrupting the minds of peoples children they dont even know…stop spewing…you dont make sense!

  31. DB May 19, 2012 12:21 am

    These people are protesting in the wrong place. Many more abortions occur on the elk refuge every year than any clinic in town:

  32. common sense 2 May 19, 2012 10:54 am

    Hey Jfish- Way to make positive comments. Thank god you have nothing better to do than critique people supporting their community. You should go grab a sign and stand with all of the other antis.

  33. JFish May 19, 2012 11:41 am

    In any case.I think all the kids will survive that visit the square today.Like I said earlier-I have never been a big fan of the protestors(so no it’s not one sided Tom)-but it’s their right.Also,I work at the hospital and in years past I can’t remember mass carnage coming in after the protestors.Alright,gotta go catch some fish.Peace.

  34. Jon May 19, 2012 5:12 pm
  35. JFish May 20, 2012 5:51 pm

    If there was a like button I would like it. Go Mets!

  36. john May 20, 2012 8:14 pm

    I want to petition marilyn manson to do a free show in their town or the Kansas State Capitol. He might want to when he sees what those protestors are up to. Specifically anti feminism, anti acceptance, just regular stuff for puritanical fundamentalist zelots.
    Some facts: most of the abortions in the US are due to drug addicted people not wanting to have babies, rape victims not wanting to have babies. This happens much more often in cities like Detroit and New Orleans. However if these people went there they would be run out of town faster than you can say I’m pro choice.

  37. Cody May 23, 2012 9:24 am

    JFish you are a fool if you work at the hospital and think Brent Blue is the only Dr in WY preforming abortions! Free speech is great however these protesters are completely wrong and mislead on this fact! Come on! I have two friends that have made the very difficult decision to have abortions here in Teton County WY. Neither had the Operation performed by Dr Brent Blue! Go figure these protesters have no idea of what they are preaching about!

  38. gringo May 29, 2012 12:19 pm

    I for one would be more than happy to pitch in a 10 spot to help offset and fuel costs or parking ticket penalties to those who may decide to park in such a manner at any future ‘event’ held by the Kansas whackos…

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